Thursday, September 30, 2010
Awkward Questions about Jesus
:) Here are some questions from kids about Jesus! I think this is fitting considering our discussion in class today. bwahhaha
Tuesday, September 28, 2010
I'm gonna be real...
I really don't know who I am anymore. A few years ago I use to get up in the morning and be excited to be awake and ready for the day. Just this last year I hated the idea of getting out of bed so much that I never got up except to go to work. Life changes. Some people go to church all the time or take care of kids, or work, or go to school or do all of those things! I just am not sure what makes me tick anymore. There are things I do- work, school, love,photography, knitting--- but what kind of person am I?
I like that in Mark, Jesus is struggling with who he is. Don't we all do it at some point or another? I really is something I identify with. Maybe who we are and what we like to do changes constantly. Jesus was human so I can see why he would have that struggle. Do I eat or do I resist, do I follow God's word or turn away, Do I love or show hate. Theses are questions we all deal with!
I'm growing into the person I need to be and its hard but I know that as long as I continue to try to live good and be happy, that everything will be ok.
I like that in Mark, Jesus is struggling with who he is. Don't we all do it at some point or another? I really is something I identify with. Maybe who we are and what we like to do changes constantly. Jesus was human so I can see why he would have that struggle. Do I eat or do I resist, do I follow God's word or turn away, Do I love or show hate. Theses are questions we all deal with!
I'm growing into the person I need to be and its hard but I know that as long as I continue to try to live good and be happy, that everything will be ok.
Thursday, September 23, 2010
Jesus and the Terminator
Friday, September 10, 2010
Pilate
I don't know what to think about Pilate. He is ultimately responsible for Jesus' death. I had always thought he was an evil man but there seems to be a glimmer of compassion in him- he was trying to fix the aqueducts and he seems to care about what the people think.Andreas' forced mission from Pilate is interesting for many reasons. On one hand it makes Pilate out to be a caring and not so bad individual- he's trying to learn rather than persecute people. Although he is using Andreas to gain information that could be used against people. He mainly wants info to tarnish Antipas. I can't decide how I feel about Pilate. He seems to care about eliminating threats, as any ruler would. The image on the coin seems to be the starting point of contention between the occupying Romans and the Jews. We honestly don't know very much about him though!
What do you think about Pilate?
On a side note- John the Baptist was behead in our readings and I thought I'd share this picture! (scroll down to see it!)
http://vestalvespa.blogspot.com/2005/03/easter-greetings.html
What do you think about Pilate?
On a side note- John the Baptist was behead in our readings and I thought I'd share this picture! (scroll down to see it!)
http://vestalvespa.blogspot.com/2005/03/easter-greetings.html
More on Divinity
September 5, 2010
Hey guys! Hope you are enjoying the weekend. From the reading (Now/Then 13-14) I got interested in the trinity. I decided to do some extra reading and came across some interesting discussions I thought I’d share.
1. “The doctrine of the Trinity- one God in a real relationship of real persons- is not something that can be comprehended by human reason. It is not a teaching that could ever have been invented by people at all. Rather, for this teaching we are entirely dependent upon special revelation- God’s Word- which clearly proclaims Jesus as having been with the Father- “in [His] own presence- before the world existed.” (http://moderndaymagi.blogspot.com/2006/04/trinity-false-polytheism-or-correct.html)
2. Regarding the Trinity; “One can quote scripture to support either position. One must understand that the Trinity is not self- evident and is a theology developed by man. The Trinity does not exist in the Hebrew Scriptures, however, it does exist in Hinduism.In the Hebrew scriptures, Israel is considered the Son of God or sons of God. Being called a son of God in the Hebrew scriptures does not make one divine, but only signifies the special relationship between God and Israel. God in flesh is a foreign concept in both Judaism and Islam. However, we see plenty examples of this in Greek and Roman mythologies which later Christianity borrowed heavily from.”
3. The concept of the messiah was firmly established in the minds of the Jewish people of that period. The messiah (the Hebrew mashiach) means the anointed one. This term traditionally was applied to the kings of Israel. However, the messiah who was expected to come and was waited impatiently in some circles of the Jewish people, was not supposed to be divine. He was expected to be a human being sent by God, not a god. http://onhotitems.blogspot.com/#29
These 3 things are interesting and I hope they make us think about how Jesus was perceived.I’ve often wondered about the idea of a messiah. I always thought of a messiah as being a ball breaking rebel that would overthrow the government and establish a new order. Jesus didn’t do that. Jesus claiming to be or rumored to be divine would have been a big problem for the Jews of the day… well, obviously, considering how he died…
Any-who I think its interesting to learn how other people may have perceived Jesus and to continue to look at how is Jesus divine! Happy blogging!
–May your ribs and wieners be yummy but not too carcinogenic!
Hey guys! Hope you are enjoying the weekend. From the reading (Now/Then 13-14) I got interested in the trinity. I decided to do some extra reading and came across some interesting discussions I thought I’d share.
1. “The doctrine of the Trinity- one God in a real relationship of real persons- is not something that can be comprehended by human reason. It is not a teaching that could ever have been invented by people at all. Rather, for this teaching we are entirely dependent upon special revelation- God’s Word- which clearly proclaims Jesus as having been with the Father- “in [His] own presence- before the world existed.” (http://moderndaymagi.blogspot.com/2006/04/trinity-false-polytheism-or-correct.html)
2. Regarding the Trinity; “One can quote scripture to support either position. One must understand that the Trinity is not self- evident and is a theology developed by man. The Trinity does not exist in the Hebrew Scriptures, however, it does exist in Hinduism.In the Hebrew scriptures, Israel is considered the Son of God or sons of God. Being called a son of God in the Hebrew scriptures does not make one divine, but only signifies the special relationship between God and Israel. God in flesh is a foreign concept in both Judaism and Islam. However, we see plenty examples of this in Greek and Roman mythologies which later Christianity borrowed heavily from.”
3. The concept of the messiah was firmly established in the minds of the Jewish people of that period. The messiah (the Hebrew mashiach) means the anointed one. This term traditionally was applied to the kings of Israel. However, the messiah who was expected to come and was waited impatiently in some circles of the Jewish people, was not supposed to be divine. He was expected to be a human being sent by God, not a god. http://onhotitems.blogspot.com/#29
These 3 things are interesting and I hope they make us think about how Jesus was perceived.I’ve often wondered about the idea of a messiah. I always thought of a messiah as being a ball breaking rebel that would overthrow the government and establish a new order. Jesus didn’t do that. Jesus claiming to be or rumored to be divine would have been a big problem for the Jews of the day… well, obviously, considering how he died…
Any-who I think its interesting to learn how other people may have perceived Jesus and to continue to look at how is Jesus divine! Happy blogging!
–May your ribs and wieners be yummy but not too carcinogenic!
Jesus, Taste the Rainbow
{ August 27, 2010 @ 5:41 pm } · { Uncategorized }
Our ideas of Jesus being divine were formulated and put in a nice, and confusing box by both the Council of Nicaea and Chalcedon. If the council of Nicea established two of the doctrines which many Christians hold dear, does that mean if one doesn’t believe, they aren’t Christians? Early Christians were followers of the way. Was the way, believing in Christ’s death and resurrection or was it a way of life? Can one be a follower of the way and not believe in the resurrection of Christ and his divinity?
If the bible is not a historical document but a narrative exegesis then maybe its ok to just believe the truths within the bible and about Jesus. Since we are learning about Jesus and the Gospels, why can’t we taste Jesus in the many flavors he’s portrayed as… Son of God, teacher, prophet, heretic. What does it mean for Christianity if Jesus was in fact not divine. What if Jesus was just a man?
Courtney Bunce
The way I see it, the point of Nicaea was simply to better define and clarify what Christians already believed. They weren’t making up new things that Christians needed to believe. I’m not sure you have to believe every bit of what they say in oder to be a Christian; however, I do think that a vital part of our faith is believing that Jesus was Christ, God incarnate who was sentenced to death for us and was resurrected.
I think that being a follower of the way is a way of life, but what you believe (as in who Jesus was) is a major part of the way in which you live. I think its possible for someone to be a “follower” without really knowing where they are going, just as a “believer” might think that Jesus was a cool guy without thinking that he was God. I believe that the answer to that is simply getting to know Him better. That seemed really cliche. But you have to know Him in order to really follow Him.
The Bible may not be historically accurate…but it does say that Jesus was resurrected from the dead. It says that He was all of those “flavors” and even more! After reading the Bible (not that I have read ALL of it) I don’t see how anyone could think Jesus was really JUST a man.
You have an interesting perspective, Kim. And I really like your title
http://courtneysletters.blogspot.com/
Our ideas of Jesus being divine were formulated and put in a nice, and confusing box by both the Council of Nicaea and Chalcedon. If the council of Nicea established two of the doctrines which many Christians hold dear, does that mean if one doesn’t believe, they aren’t Christians? Early Christians were followers of the way. Was the way, believing in Christ’s death and resurrection or was it a way of life? Can one be a follower of the way and not believe in the resurrection of Christ and his divinity?
If the bible is not a historical document but a narrative exegesis then maybe its ok to just believe the truths within the bible and about Jesus. Since we are learning about Jesus and the Gospels, why can’t we taste Jesus in the many flavors he’s portrayed as… Son of God, teacher, prophet, heretic. What does it mean for Christianity if Jesus was in fact not divine. What if Jesus was just a man?
Courtney Bunce
The way I see it, the point of Nicaea was simply to better define and clarify what Christians already believed. They weren’t making up new things that Christians needed to believe. I’m not sure you have to believe every bit of what they say in oder to be a Christian; however, I do think that a vital part of our faith is believing that Jesus was Christ, God incarnate who was sentenced to death for us and was resurrected.
I think that being a follower of the way is a way of life, but what you believe (as in who Jesus was) is a major part of the way in which you live. I think its possible for someone to be a “follower” without really knowing where they are going, just as a “believer” might think that Jesus was a cool guy without thinking that he was God. I believe that the answer to that is simply getting to know Him better. That seemed really cliche. But you have to know Him in order to really follow Him.
The Bible may not be historically accurate…but it does say that Jesus was resurrected from the dead. It says that He was all of those “flavors” and even more! After reading the Bible (not that I have read ALL of it) I don’t see how anyone could think Jesus was really JUST a man.
You have an interesting perspective, Kim. And I really like your title
http://courtneysletters.blogspot.com/
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